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Cheriour ([personal profile] clockeyes) wrote in [community profile] asgardeventide2012-10-23 12:22 am

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Justice.

[It's a strange sight, really- there's Cheriour, clock eyes always ticking, and there is a gentle sort of smile on his face as usual, but what is in his hands might be a surprise to some who haven't seen him carry it around.]

[It's a
sword, and an old one at that. He's rubbing it down with a cloth, polishing it, though the slight dark tarnishes at it's end are impossible to remove. And he continues to speak at the bracelet placed next to him, hand never stopping its movements down the weapon.]

I'm not sure that many people know what justice really is, honestly! I mean, when you talk about someone being just, it means they know what is right. They can look at a situation and judge accordingly, making sure that their decisions go accordingly to their own moral compass.

But justice is really more than that. Justice is...hmmm, how to put this? It's just something that you have to follow through with. It's the feeling you get when you watch an innocent person get hurt. It's seeing a bad person really get what they deserve after all the harm and pain they've caused others. It's this force, really, that drives you to do the utmost good for people you can do.

[There's a dreamy sort of look on his face, like he's talking about something adored and prized over all- it's quite obvious that he has really strong feelings about this.]


But! Of course, not many people think about it that way. Some people think it can be only found in courtroom cases and trials, which is true, but it's so much more widespread! Justice is more than a jury and a judge, anybody can go through with it. It's found in everybody.

...At least, that's what I think.

[And he smiles over at the bracelet with a pondering look.]

What is really the definition of justice, do you think?
refute: (「ᴍᴀɴɢᴀ ❖ ʙʀᴏᴋᴇ ᴍʏ sᴘɪʀɪᴛ ᴅᴏᴡɴ.」)

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[personal profile] refute 2012-10-23 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
It’s as you said ― Everyone has a different definition when it comes to justice. [ While she didn’t think that seeing bad doers have their just-desserts was a pleasure in itself, she could admit that it was nice to know that they would be being taught a lesson. However, if that lesson was to sink in or not was another story for another time and place. ] It isn’t a word that holds the same meaning for everyone, the same being applied to the word ‘good’ or ‘bad’. It’s a matter of what type of person they are that brings about their own definition of the word.
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[personal profile] refute 2012-10-25 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
If they were given an example, they may not necessarily agree with it. [ As she said, everyone had a different definition of the word. ] In the end, it may be similar but it won’t be the same. For instance, if you tried explaining your definition of justice to an axe-wielding murderer, I sincerely doubt that they would see eye-to-eye with you on the matter.
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[personal profile] lassos 2012-10-23 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Justice is just as you say, at least partially. It's the system of thinking beings to discern what is right from wrong, and to impose punishment for what is wrong. Justice is to save the innocent from the deeds of the wicked and cruel.

[There's a pause, and though the next bit is delivered with just as much conviction, her tone is still just a bit more gentle] But justice is, ultimately, not in mortal hands. It is my opinion that while we may have our opinions on justice, the idea that a person gets what they "deserve" is not something I agree with. It is not our place to decide that, for we cannot look at an action through the scope of a lifetime. By isolating that action we seek justice for, we miss the entirety that leads a person to wickedness. So it is my opinion that justice may be held as a sword in one hand, but we just as much need an olive branch of mercy in the other. It may be for naught, for their wounds may be too deep, but a seed of mercy may still grow to something greater.

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[personal profile] burntspirit 2012-10-23 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
...I suppose I agree with what you say, mostly.

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[personal profile] noblejustice 2012-10-23 07:56 am (UTC)(link)
It's true that others have different opinions of justice, however I believe the true definition is using your power to right the wrongs of the world. Especially when it is on your hands to do so, why allow the wrongs to continue when you have the ability to right those wrongs?

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[personal profile] samantha_grey 2012-10-23 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
One man's justice is another's tyranny. So long as the paths we walk are unblocked, there's no reason to interfere in the lives of anyone else. And yet, Justice tends to do just that, Cheriour.

Not saying you're wrong, but a lot of awful things get done in its name.

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[personal profile] showmeanguish 2012-10-23 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It's just the polar opposite of apathy, isn't it?

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[personal profile] diviner 2012-10-23 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't exist.

[Not in her world, at least.]
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[personal profile] secondborn 2012-10-23 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
[Sir. Your eyes are clocks. Sir. Your eyes. Are clocks.]

What you said is pretty good.

[He's quiet a moment. This is a really big deal to him and he's trying not to think too much about issues from home or let them get to him.]

Justice is the restoration of Balance. Righting a wrong.
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[personal profile] occulthymns 2012-10-24 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
You already know my opinion on justice.

[Plus she's more interested iiiin...]

That's a nice sword!

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[personal profile] sparkling_eyes 2012-10-24 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Justice is a lot of things, I think. It can be a code of morality to follow, but it's also about righting wrongs and handing out fair punishments to people who have broken the law or hurt others. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people take it too far, and it turns into tyranny or revenge.

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[personal profile] adventuretime 2012-10-24 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you and Terezi would get along well. I'm not very familiar with the word as much as she probably was. It wasn't my thing, so to speak.

But what if it was meant to happen? A bad person hurting others because it continues a story forward as it should go. I suppose in the end, what came to them came, but isn't that also a cycle. And what if you were supposed to do something bad because it would help the people around you?

I don't think all our actions can be the utmost good if we want something to change. [Although trolls have a rather skewed sense of the term in general.]
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[personal profile] holmes_fanatic 2012-10-24 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Ne, Cheriour-san?

With how strongly you feel about Justice, you've never attempted to implement a system of justice in Asgard. Why's that?

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